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Building a House in Kala Point, Port Townsend, WA

Building a House in Kala Point, Port Townsend, WA
A running narrative of first-time builders of their retirement home in Port Townsend, WA (NE corner of the Olympic Pennisula, 60 miles NW of Seattle). Follow us as this adventure unfolds in late 2008 and beyond. 18 months under construction, we moved in on May 25th, 2010. Photo taken August 15, 2010.

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Saturday, February 7, 2009

Roofing bid accepted (Day 109 of 273)

Once the committee made a decision to accept our roofing choice, we needed to select a roofing company. You'd think that this is straightforward, but not always. In Denver the least expensive roofing estimate we got for the old house was about $7500, and the most expensive (of 5 bid) was about $13,500. All the same materials and specs, so it pays to shop around. We ended up using the $7500 guy because he was the only one the crawled all over the roof and was willing to discuss the job in detail. Other than being a bit slow and singing show tunes on the rooftop, we were entirely satisfied with Peter Douglas (Covenant Roofing). Now that house had 2500 sq ft of roofing on a 12:12 pitch and one dormer. It was a complete tear off and redeck, and used 30 yr shingles (not the best, but pretty good for the purpose of resale).

On the new house we have about 4200 sq. ft of roofing at a 5:12 pitch (much easier to climb on). The underlayment (#30 tar paper) is already done ($1500), so the bids we got were for the Pabco Paramont Advantage (TL, 50 yr, 495#/sq.), with is comparable with the GAF Grand Canyon and CertainTeed Presidential TL shingles. The bids included all valley flashing (24" metal), sidewall flashing, and installation of the roof jacks (vents), exhaust vents, and skylights (9).

Our preferred roofer came in high, as he predicted so this presented a bit of a dilemma because we really liked the guy (Eric). He'd said that he had never got a roofing job in Kala Point because he was too expensive (compounded with the shingle cost). Eric bid about $17,800 for the job.

The second most expensive bid came from another likable guy, Joe Bartlett of Port Ludlow, a tony little village down the water. Boats, seaplanes and retired executives come to mind. Bartlett bid $15,124 and might have come down $100 because he overestimated the number of skylights by one. No matter, he was outbid by two others.

The second least expensive bid came from some guys in Port Orchard, down near Bremerton. C&M Construction (Cloise and Mike). They prepared a very complete estimate and had good refs (voted N. 1 contractor in S. Kitsap for 2008; but who voted?). Anyway they came in at $13,517, a pretty good price.

The least expensive bid was from the local, big-dog roofing company, Hope Roofing. I had figured they'd be high (big building, lots of employees, etc.), but they weren't. I wanted to use a local company to keep our bucks in the area. At first the bid of $13,192 was the low one, but then I noticed (yes, read the fine print) that they wanted an additional $125 for flashing of each skylight and chimney. At 9+1, that amounted to $1250 (+tax = a total of $1355) which pushed the real estimate up to $14,547. I found the additional amount unwarranted, since we purposely selected Velux QFS skylights, which are self-flashing and very easy to roof on top of. So, Steve Ford waived the skylight flashing cost and we settled for the original low bid of $13,192.

Assuming that they install 42 squares of roofing, the cost will be $314 per square. Add on the $36 per square cost for the underlayment, and we netted out at $350 per square. Sounds like a hell of a lot of money to keep rain off your heads, but the Denver house came out at $300 per square with the tear off and a much lesser grade shingle (ca. half the cost).

So if you're looking to roof or reroof in the near future, these numbers should help. Roofers are a bit hungry right now (they all came right out and got bids to me in a few days), and shingle prices are steady, not increasing like last summer (remember that asphalt is the dregs in the petroleum distillate chain and oil was @ $140 bbl). I suspect that we could roof a new house outside of Kala Point for about $250/square with a good double-layer shingle (GAF Sequoia or Presidental, or Pabco Paramont). We'll call that additional $100 a square (or $4200) one of the costs of living in a lovely, but covenant-controlled community. We could have opted for wooden shingles or cement tiles at $25,000+, or slate at $75,000-$100,000, but then we wouldn't be having any kitchen appliances and Nancy would be a widow.

Subcontractors and Suppliers

  • Balco Excav. (land clearing, Bill Snyder)
  • Bill McCutchen's Mill (cedar trim)
  • Blake Tile and Stone, Sequim (Judy Reno, Eldorado Stone, Tile)
  • Bob Brown Plumbing (Bob & Josh Brown)
  • Boise Cascade joists (from Carls)
  • Carl's Building Supply (Mike, Melissa, Michele, Terry & Lawrence)
  • Castlerock Landscaping (Tim Hamm, Sequim)
  • Cotton RediMix (concrete and gravel)
  • Craighead Electric (Gary Estes)
  • Custom Hearth (propane fireplaces), Pousbo
  • Daltile (Seattle, Wedi board)
  • Discount Cabinets of Washington (Sequim)
  • Discovery Bay Materials (gravel, top soil)
  • Earl Kong (professional forester, PT))
  • EcoHaus (Amer. Clay Plaster, cork flooring)
  • Ellis Construction (Gary and Troy Ellis, framing)
  • Evergreen Products (Drywall, Sequim)
  • Fergusons, Seattle (Plumbing fixtures, Bud Allen Wright)
  • FInlandia Saunas (Tigard, OR)
  • Fitzgerald Concrete (driveway, Mike Fitzgerald)
  • Four Corners Nursery (trees, Port Hadlock)
  • Frank Feltes Custom Drywall and Painting (drywall and painting)
  • Frank Ward and Wayne Jobst (Stone masons)
  • Fredricks Appliances (Redmond, all appliances)
  • Giraffe Gutters (Dan Shaw, Chimicum)
  • Glass Etchings by Perrett (Jerry Perrett)
  • Hadlock Building Supply (bits and pieces)
  • Hardiboard, siding, backer board (from Carls and Home Depot)
  • Henerys Hardware (Cabot stain, misc. fasteners)
  • Hi-Tech Electronics (Audio & Media, Port Angeles)
  • Hide-A-Hose (Joseph, A-B Vacuum, Puyallup, WA)
  • Home Depot (electrical & plumbing supplies, interior paint)
  • Home Storage Solutions (John Plake, PT)
  • Hope Roofing (Pabco Paramont Advantage shingles)
  • Jim's Tool Time (J. Quandt, misc. carpentry)
  • K&D Concrete (Don McNeese)
  • Kitchen and Bath Studio (Shelly Little, cabinets)
  • Levi's Energy Services LLC (radiant design, vents, propane piping)
  • Meta Marble and Granite (travertine), Seattle
  • Michaelangelo (sepentinite), Seattle
  • Mikael Brostrom (Structural Engineer)
  • Mills Interiors (wood flooring, some tile)
  • North Coast Electrical (Electrical Supplies)
  • Olympic Garage Doors (Sequim)
  • Penisula Flooring (carpet)
  • Penisula Shower and Mirror (Sequim)
  • PexSupply (online plumbing and radiant supplies)
  • Puget Sound Power (and Atelco installers)
  • Richard Berg Architects (Richard and Darlene)
  • Richard Gifford Construction (septic, dry wells and grading)
  • Richerts Marble and Granite (countertop fabricators)
  • Seattle Lighting (lighting fixtures)
  • Secret Gardens Nursery (Sheila Piccini)
  • Shine Quarry (basalt for landscaping)
  • Sierra Pacific Windows (Rob Sorg)
  • Simpson Doors (from Carls)
  • Simpson Strong Tie (fasteners & hold downs)
  • Stewart Excavating (Mark Stewart, foundation)
  • Sunshine Propane (propane and tank)
  • Therma-Tru Doors (from Carls)
  • Tracy's Insulation (batts and blow in)
  • Trex Decking (from Carls)
  • Trussworks (roof trusses, Carl's)
  • Velux (Skylights and Solar tubes, Carls)
  • Versalam beams (from Carls)
  • Warmboard (Bruce Hull)
  • Wisbo Aquipex, Taco Pumps, Polaris tank (Sunshine Propane)

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Professional geologist (USGS, 1972-2008), amateur home remodeler and now builder. Interested in sailing, all things involving salt water, woodworking, and food in general. Owner of Paleo Seis Surveys LLC, consulting in Quaternary geology and geological hazards.